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Pascal,
Thanks
for the comments and thanks for raising the license issue. I understand that the
use of both LGPL and BSD
license will make things a little bit more complex for
ObjectWeb, but I beleive it is worth the effort as it help us
setting-up
a strong collaboration with Apache and decuple
the use of our software. I also think we can handle using BSD and
LGPL
license since that is what we have been doing with external contributions for a
while.
Thanks,
Christophe
Hi,
Reading this thread, I have two
comments:
1. There is probably only one common thing
between Monolog or other logging system used for auditing or monitoring
purpose and logging system used to ensure atomic updates in transactional
context: they share the same name. Thus, I think it makes sense to investigate
them separately.
2. There are at least (to my knowledge) two projects
that relate to that topic within ObjectWeb. The first one is C-JDBC as it has
been discussed with Emmanuel. Indeed using a database system for reusing its
logging features is a good idea but it may be quite a heavy solution in some
contexts. The second one is Perseus (available on ObjectWeb forge) that
aims at providing an open (component-based) persistence framework that has
been worked out by IMAG/LSR and FTR&D. The current beta version provides
cache management, concurrency management (pessimistic or optimistic),
transaction management, storage management and as been heavily validated as it
is used into Speedo. Unfortunately, the logging part has been heavily studied
(API definition) and experimented (prototyped), but it has not been published
yet on forge. Anyway, we already have a lot of code there that can be shared
with others, having in mind that it is published under
LGPL.
Pascal.
Alexandre Lefebvre wrote:
Hi,
I'm forwarding this thread to architecture@xxxxxxxxxxxxx to
open the discussion.
alex
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From: Philippe Merle <Philippe.Merle@xxxxxxx>
Date: Jeu nov 27, 2003 10:40:33 Europe/Paris To: college@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject:
Re: [college] Fwd: [webmaster] New SourceForge project submitted
Hi,
In my previous message, I have asked some questions to
the submitter of the new project. If you have more questions don't
hesitate to ask them to him (with a copy to the college mailing list).
Perhaps this time we could be proactive, e.g. push synergy
between ObjectWeb activities instead of having two things doing
similar work.
For me, MonoLog API is not incompatible with high
performance journal. Or if this is incompatible, I need to understand
why?
A+ Philippe Merle
Philippe Merle wrote:
Hello,
Your project seems to be
interesting for the ObjectWeb middleware community.
The
ObjectWeb college of architects should status on your project
submission. In order to help us, could you reply to the following
questions:
1) Why would you like to start a project under the
BSD license? The ObjectWeb recommanded license is LGPL.
2) Do you think that your work could be part of a larger
initiative on logging? If yes, what relations could be
built between your project and the MonoLog project?
Could your High Performance Journal use the API
defined by the MonoLog project? If no, why?
3) What is the
status of the implementation of the proposed project?
Best
Regard Philippe Merle President of the ObjectWeb College of
Architects
Mathieu Peltier wrote:
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Subject: [webmaster] New SourceForge project
submitted Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:34:49 +0100 From: michael.giroux@xxxxxxxx
To: webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
New SourceForge project submitted
Project full name:
High Performance Journal Submitted description: Implement a high
speed log writter facility that meets the performance
requirements of projects such as JOTM recovery, database
journals and other types of software that rely on journals
or logs for recovery, auditing and other tasks.
Logging facilities currently implemented using pure Java
suffer from performance issues. In order to maximize
transaction throughput it is necessary to provide
logging (also known as journalization) that performs as
well as native application implementations. Projects
such as JOTM require a journalization facility that
provides high performance and guaranteed flushes to
allow for reliable transaction recovery.
The primary goal of
this project is to provide a persistent logging facility
that does not cause measurable performance degradation.
License: bsd
Please visit the following URL to approve or
reject this project: https://forge.objectweb.org/admin/approve-pending.php
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