Re: [college] [Fwd: Re: JPackages and ObjectWeb]

[Gérard Vandome <gerard.vandome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Emmanuel to extend the discussion to the college mailing list.
I even extend it to to the architecture mailing list as packaging is a key
issue for usability of ObjectWeb components.

Just to remember the experience we had with JOnAS. When we do the first rpm
for JOnAS we put everything within the rpm. Then when we put the jonas rpm on
jpackage we withdraw all apache components which already have rpms on
jpackage. Thanks to the help of David, we would like to do the same for
ObjectWeb components used by JOnAS.

Emmanuel Cecchet wrote:

> There is an ongoing conversation with a guy from JPackage to make
> standard rpm packages with some ObjectWeb components.
> Do the college have any recommendation about the naming or other issues?
>
> Emmanuel
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:        Re: JPackages and ObjectWeb
> Date:   Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:33:41 +0100
> From:   Sebastien Chassande-Barrioz
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> Organization:   France Telecom R&D
> To:     David Walluck <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Hi David,
>
> First lot of thank for this job.
> Concerning the naming of package there is no official rule defined in
> objectweb. Nevertheless, some partners prefix the jar names "ow_" for
> components. For the packaged products, some partners provide a big jar
> containing the classes of the product and the classes of dependencies.
> (Maybe we could write a recommendation page on this topic...)
> Concerning the circular dependency can be removed easily. I going to to
> this by separating the ant task definitions (with simple package) and
> Monolog using the ant tasks.
> Finally the xerces version is used to build the web site. For more
> information on the process you should contact mathieu.peltier at
> inrialpes.fr .
>
> Regards,
> Seb
>
> Le ven 23/01/2004 à 22:38, David Walluck a écrit :
> > Hi guys.
> >
> > I can get a monolog package done this weekend, hopefully. My first
> > question would be what should the naming of the packages be?
> >
> > I noticed everything in monolog is prefixed with `ow' (objectweb).
> > Should `objectweb' prefix each RPM filename or is this unimportant (see
> > jakarta-commons naming for example)? Also, what do I call ow_util?
> > Should the RPM be called objectweb-uti? I will package it separate from
> > monolog.
> >
> > Unfortunately, there's a circular dependency on ow_util for monolog.
> > Could you not make it into a separate build tree with a separate
> > build.xml which does not use the ant tasks? Otherwise, monolog actually
> > requires itself to build!
> >
> > Also, it would helped to be warned of any very old external jars. For
> > example, I see here web/lib/xerces1_0_2.jar. The current xerces in
> > JPackage is 2.5.0 and it's no longer even possible to build old xerces
> > on current JVM's.
> >
> > In the future I will try not to mail you all, and if I have to I will
> > jump on some mailing lists.
> >
> > Thanks for the help!
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